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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
3.5。作为原作粉我本来没指望着便能给我惊喜。但编剧把原作“都市传说一直口耳相传蔓延在我们身边”的概念升级为以现代艺术的方式呈现确实进了一步。讲Candyman作为蜂巢的概念虽好，但确实与前作会有脱节。然后弱就弱在这部没有原版那种由菲利普格拉斯的音乐+城市大部分景观镜头辅助都市传说所造成的一种包围感。（片头和中间的逆城市景观镜头确实有在尝试就是了）
比较多的延续了老版的剧情，但是老版诡魅的精髓无法复刻！气氛不够杀戮来凑，大量的血腥场面反而减弱了恐怖感，那种无处不在的被窥探被跟踪的恐惧，完全没有了。
6/10。可以看到许多乔丹皮尔的影子。优缺点都很明显，不直面死亡而采用多角度侧写加强了电影感。黑女最后召唤糖果人杀死白人警察，联系到现实情景，可以说是出了口恶气（但电影的社会性过于直白，或者直接剪辑真实新闻来摆明檄文属性）。铺垫长了些，没有糖果，生理刺激少，蜂巢的黑人社区比喻可以更明显。
恐怖的candyman在种族歧视面前也成了唯一的守护者。唯一的bug就是男主身上的蜇伤和烫伤是怎么蔓延开的。还有candyman到底是shaman 还是巫师？很多细节都没有交代清楚
在原版的基础上进行深化改编，这部新版《糖果人》用皮影戏的独特手法交代原版里重要角色的来龙去脉，并且将原版里最后获救的婴儿成为延续这个恐怖都市传说的人物。暴力血腥情节依旧，较为符合当下观众的口味。不过相比原版，这部的政治议题异常突出，以至于有忽视叙事逻辑的倾向，甚至感觉少了一两场交代主角转变的情节，最后大开杀戒的高潮戏过于直白。这种直奔主题的处理有考虑不周的缺点，最严肃、最正确的话题也不必如此声嘶力竭，或许这才是当下黑人控诉题材影片需要反思的一点。
电影结尾，糖果侠那段独白像极了诺兰的“黑暗骑士”，誓将“钩子”符号化的劲头儿来了~这御空fly靠满脸的fly真TM亮了！
这片的逻辑就类似国内的小粉红叫嚣因为抗日战争的南京大屠杀，所以现在我们要冲到日本去干掉所有日本右翼势力。。。
当下有太多把种族主义放于电影中的作品，但大多都显得刻意而多余。然而在本人看来，这次翻拍的糖果人却把两者融合得很好。
我觉得我可能就是特别吃peele的风格，他真的拍啥我都觉得好看。。。就缺点也挺明显，有些隐喻本来挺清爽硬是拐了两三拐就直接玩儿掉了，剧情里面不合理的地方有不少，但对我来讲都不是事儿。我就喜欢看他的愤怒，和那种不太正经但还是有点吓人的恐怖片呈现方式。另外男主太帅了👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
所以是借都市传说来过于“直白并单纯”地控诉种族歧视……看得那叫一个尴尬……
很明白导演要表达的议题，但是作为一部类型片，该在自洽逻辑世界里交代清楚的问题必须要交代清楚啊！不是有控诉就大完全世界的。
#22#03中国人不骗中国人，Candyman不杀Blackman。有此大将，三十年了居然还没统一亚美利加，连芝加哥一个拆迁弄堂都整不明白。想象力还是保守了
7/10 Successful for a horror movie, but then the lack of finesse really shows when you have too much to say through a horror movie but don’t know how to deliver the messages artfully.
看完要去吐一吐解毒，导演挺自我陶醉的。硬生生植入吃药睡觉的纯情梗尴尬地让人想生气，敢不敢找个稍微帅点的配美女？范少勋发型再丑也不能掩盖强行成熟的尴尬，看在我为你看完这部电影的份上，多去演纯情热血体育生吧，在自己的舒适圈再逗留一下，拜托。两位女主角牺牲挺大，温贞菱演得出彩些。男主的白月光人设太过矫揉做作，一看就是男编剧yy的产物，演员还是很美的。
个人认为结局和电影中的连环画确实蛮具爆发力的，可惜因为结局也被一些豆友讽刺为《漫威糖果侠》。其实如果看过老版《糖果人》，会发现新版《糖果人》还是满有诚意的。
一个非常Jordan Peele的故事，但Nia DaCosta执行得异常漂亮，连此前一直对Peele无感的我都觉得耳目一新。没看过老版，但这部无疑是属于当下的黑人身份政治电影，甚至结尾那句话已经成为一种“宣传”——当然建立在完整的表达和充沛的视听之上一切都显得水到渠成。
大概是，如果把话都说清楚的话也就没有意思了吧
“谁能让太阳升起，洒满美丽的露珠？”
婴童从未在仇恨的火海余生，双手难以从狭隘的画布自由。贫民窟是以神之名打造的刑场，摩天大楼只是在此升高的墓碑；糖果人是以吾之血延续的圣经，后辈子孙难逃一脉相承的圈套。噬人的蜂巢是弱者的名目，折射的镜像是历史的冤录，色彩如浓墨泼洒，光影似利器切割，艺术的殿堂任由虚荣作祟，法律的后座永远等级分明。
难看至极，近30年后再出续集，故事情节有断层，叙事风格大改变，一众黑人角色登场，政治正确到我分不清谁是谁，依靠皮影回顾过往太过敷衍，讲糖果人对事件关联者的影响，不仅是人生阴影，更奇妙的是生根发芽的本质，对，极端暗黑通常会有人继承衣钵，完全狗尾续貂，血浆虐杀片变内心挣扎专场，前后毫无铺垫，配角根本无需存在，整个莫名其妙的“新糖果人”登场，相对老版故事，规避很多血腥镜头的直面，全程苦大仇深，沉浸在做作境界里，电影已经不像正统续集，感觉为新故事发展而出现的过度篇，90分钟的篇幅数独让人觉得无趣慢热，最烦这种动不动就搞政治的装逼货。★
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